[Moderator's note: Gosh, the "Speak To Write Fund" has kind of a nice
ring! Thanks, Jeanne. I'd be happy to be paid to continue to run the
listserv(!) but I don't think that's necessary, and it's clear that we
could maintain something from free public discussion lists. I DO
appreciate the sentiment though. My circumstances are such right now that
I might be able to keep on moderating the list even if it "goes
private"--meaning if we take if off of EDC's server. I frankly think that
all of you participants don't really need me as moderator except that
maybe things do stay more focussed with someone riding herd. I think we
should be able to keep things moving for the time being... Bob]
Is there a way that listserv members could contribute to funding? What
does it cost to keep it going?
Jeanne Beckman
spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org wrote:
>[Moderator's note: And of course, many thanks to you Peter. I have a
>reprieve of a couple of weeks from my company, Education Development
>Center, to keep the list going after funding runs out as we try to find
>alternatives. After getting a lot of feedback, it seems that most people
>have had good experiences with Yahoo groups. I am considering this and
>also thinking about continuing to moderate it for awhile to see how
things
>go. I'm hoping that if we keep it moderated we can maintain whatever
focus
>and quality/ benefit members have found in it. Feedback from any? Bob]
>
>Thank you Becky and Bob
>
>We have enjoyed getting the positive feedback from our product
development
>from the spk2wrt site over the last few years. I will genuinely miss the
>"virtual" family on the site. Although I am sure many people will
achieve
>success with alternative arrangements with other sites, this site's
>community will inevitably be fragmented and become reduced in value. My
>own
>attempts at joining other sites have always proved to be too much trouble
>and have limited activity for our own involvement to be worthwhile.
>
>I still feel that an after-spk2wrt solution can be found which has
>benefits
>over the current alternatives. Let's hope so.
>
>Best regards, Peter
>
>
>Dr Peter S Kelway
>Words Worldwide
>Mob: +44(0)7980-177390
>Fax:+44(0)1661-822777
>E-mail: newspeak@telco4u.net <mailto:newspeak@telco4u.net>
>Web: www.keyspell.com <http://www.keyspell.com>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
[mailto:owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org]
>On Behalf Of spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
>Sent: 17 February 2005 13:59
>To: spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
>Subject: RE: [EDC-spk2wrt] Data Bin Files
>
>[Moderator's note. There, Peter. Never let it be said that I only
>forwarded
>messages of congratulation to myself! Bob]
>
>Peter,
>
>I do appreciate the power of your software. In my 20 years successfully
>tweaking clients' systems (although new to Dragon), I of course back up
>prior to testing and always test on my own unit thoroughly before
>attempting
>anything on a client's computer. I've been able in the past to come up
>with
>"creative tweaks". Perhaps I'll hit a wall this time, but I'm interested
>in
>at least trying.
>
>Keyspell is a great product with a lot of power and one that can help
many
>individuals. Thank you for developing it.
>Becky
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
>[mailto:owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org] On Behalf Of
>spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
>Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:01 AM
>To: spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
>Subject: RE: [EDC-spk2wrt] Data Bin Files
>
>This sort of chaos is exactly why we developed our Stories Organizer.
>Remember, if you accidentally damage or move files or folders around
>wrongly, you could end up with a DNS system that no longer works at all.
>
>
>Regards, Peter
>
>
>Dr Peter S Kelway
>Words Worldwide
>Mob: +44(0)7980-177390
>Fax:+44(0)1661-822777
>E-mail: newspeak@telco4u.net <mailto:newspeak@telco4u.net>
>Web: www.keyspell.com <http://www.keyspell.com>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
>[mailto:owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org]
>On Behalf Of spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
>Sent: 11 February 2005 00:57
>To: spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
>Subject: RE: [EDC-spk2wrt] Data Bin Files
>
>[Moderator's note. Since I haven't worked with v.8 at all and haven't
>tried
>adding texts for a while, I can't help. It seems to me we used to simply
>follow the file naming convention and pattern in the folder, but I
>dunno...
>Any ideas here? Bob]
>
>Hi,
>
>I've spent a couple hours now trying to get a document added in as a
>training file. I'm "almost there"...but reached a wall.
>
>This may be too long for the list. Just in case someone can help:
>
>I started with the "old" directions Bob sent me (thank you so much) but
>accommodating for bin file data in DNS8. My trainig file was created in a
>text editor and saved as becky.bin, located in the appropriate folder
>c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
>Data\ScanSoft\NaturallySpeaking8\Data\Training\enx\ ). Did not show up in
>the enrollment list.
>
>I looked at the existing bin files, and discovered there are 2 types:
>enroll#.bin and data#.bin. I opened them and saw that the data.bin files
>
>are
>text. Many of the enroll.bin files list training file information (e.g.,
>enroll4.bin lists the 6 training files that appear in my new enrollment
>training list).
>
>I copied the enroll4.bin file and created an enroll10.bin with the added
>information about my file [My New Enrollment Text (added becky.bin).
>Nothing.
>
>I edited the enroll4.bin file and added my new information. Now my file
>appeared in the training list as "My New Enrollment Text (added)
>becky.bin".
>When I tried to open it I got a file missing prompt, "The required file
>c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
>Data\ScanSoft\NaturallySpeaking8\Data\Training\enx\ is missing. Please
>reinstall Dragon Naturally Speaking to restore this file.
>
>However, all the original training files still work OK.
>
>Any suggestions? Thanks!
>Becky
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Becky Fleisch Cordeiro
>Instructional Designer
>Children's Hospital Boston
>Communication Enhancement Center
>(617)355-3666
>
>________________________________
>
>From: owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org on behalf of spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
>Sent: Thu 2/10/2005 5:14 AM
>To: spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
>Subject: RE: [EDC-spk2wrt] Data Bin Files
>
>
>
>[Moderator's note. I think you've gotten several responses now that talk
>about how to accomplish this, no? However, let us know if there's
>something
>that's still unclear, as it could be an issue for others as well. Bob]
>
>Hi,
>
>Thanks for the reminder about Keystone. Although I'm new to it, I feel
>it's
>a great product, and one that can improve SR for many people. Most of our
>families are on limited budgets. If they don't need the
>word/phrase/sentence
>break point, and the in-window readback that Keyspell offers, and if
>there's
>a way to incorporate their own stories using DNS software, I'd like to be
>able to show them how to do this. Any info would be appreciated.
>
>Becky
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Becky Fleisch Cordeiro
>Remote Solutions Coordinator
>Children's Hospital Boston
>Communication Enhancement Center
>(617)355-3666
>
>________________________________
>
>From: owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org on behalf of spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
>Sent: Wed 2/9/2005 4:29 AM
>To: spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
>Subject: RE: [EDC-spk2wrt] Data Bin Files
>
>
>
>
>KeyStone SpeechMaster's Stories Organiser provides a foolproof method by
>which you can turn any text file into DNS-compatible scripts which are
>simple added to those normally available with the product. You can have
>your
>text automatically broken up into words, phrases or sentences and/or
place
>your own break point indicators in your text.
>
>Details are available on our commercial web site www.keyspell.com.
>
>Regards, Peter
>
>
>Dr Peter S Kelway
>Words Worldwide
>Mob: +44(0)7980-177390
>Fax:+44(0)1661-822777
>E-mail: newspeak@telco4u.net <mailto:newspeak@telco4u.net>
>Web: www.keyspell.com <http://www.keyspell.com>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
>[mailto:owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org]
>On Behalf Of spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
>Sent: 07 February 2005 16:43
>To: spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
>Subject: [EDC-spk2wrt] Data Bin Files
>
>[Moderator's note. Hi, Becky. Time was, back in the old days, that you
>could
>just go to Joel Gould's site--he was one of the original DD and DNS
>engineers--for such tricks. I'm sure it's in our archives also. I will
>forward you a copy of the old instructions from Joel's site. HOwever, the
>training files were just text files with the '.bin' extension added in
>naming. I assume that's still the case. Maybe others have a handier
online
>source for this info. Bob]
>
>Hi,
>
>I read the responses posted 2/3/05 from Bill Wade and Ed Rosenthal to the
>question posed by Eileen C. Haddon regarding the data bin files (located
>
>in
>C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
>Data\ScanSoft\NaturallySpeaking8\Data\Training\Enx)
>
>Wow! I didn't even know these were here.
>
>Eileen said she'd "also like the ability to put in my own text for
>training.." So would I! I didn't know this was possible. How do you do
>this?
>
>1. What software do you use to create/save the file?
>2. I assume it must be saved with a .bin extension?
>3. What protocol does the base name of the file need to follow? I see
data
>bin files numbered data0.bin through data19.bin and then data 33.bin
>through
>data40.bin 4. Where does Dragon get the name that will appear in the list
>of
>training texts?
>
>Thanks
>Becky
>
>----------------------------------------------
>Becky Fleisch Cordeiro
>Instructional Designer
>Children's Hospital Boston
>Communication Enhancement Center
>617-355-3666
>Hours: Mon-Thurs.
> 6:00 a.m.-3:45 p.m.
>
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