RE: Data Bin Files

From: spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
Date: Wed Feb 16 2005 - 16:03:59 EST


[Moderator's note. Thanks Daryl. Bob]

Becky, rename your file as enroll4.bin and the old one as enroll4a.bin.

Daryl Murphy
Adaptive Computer Technician Specialist

A wise man said that to gain knowledge is good, but to share knowledge is
wise.
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From: owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org [mailto:owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org]
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Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:57 PM
To: spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
Subject: RE: Data Bin Files

[Moderator's note. Since I haven't worked with v.8 at all and haven't
tried adding texts for a while, I can't help. It seems to me we used to
simply follow the file naming convention and pattern in the folder, but I
dunno... Any ideas here? Bob]

Hi,
 
I've spent a couple hours now trying to get a document added in as a
training file. I'm "almost there"...but reached a wall.
 
This may be too long for the list. Just in case someone can help:
 
I started with the "old" directions Bob sent me (thank you so much) but
accommodating for bin file data in DNS8. My trainig file was created in a
text editor and saved as becky.bin, located in the appropriate folder
c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
Data\ScanSoft\NaturallySpeaking8\Data\Training\enx\ ). Did not show up in
the enrollment list.
 
I looked at the existing bin files, and discovered there are 2 types:
enroll#.bin and data#.bin. I opened them and saw that the data.bin files
are text. Many of the enroll.bin files list training file information
(e.g., enroll4.bin lists the 6 training files that appear in my new
enrollment training list).
 
I copied the enroll4.bin file and created an enroll10.bin with the added
information about my file [My New Enrollment Text (added becky.bin).
Nothing.
 
I edited the enroll4.bin file and added my new information. Now my file
appeared in the training list as "My New Enrollment Text (added)
becky.bin". When I tried to open it I got a file missing prompt, "The
required file c:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
Data\ScanSoft\NaturallySpeaking8\Data\Training\enx\ is missing. Please
reinstall Dragon Naturally Speaking to restore this file.
 
However, all the original training files still work OK.
 
Any suggestions? Thanks!
Becky
 
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Becky Fleisch Cordeiro
Instructional Designer
Children's Hospital Boston
Communication Enhancement Center
(617)355-3666

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From: owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org on behalf of spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
Sent: Thu 2/10/2005 5:14 AM
To: spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
Subject: RE: Data Bin Files

[Moderator's note. I think you've gotten several responses now that talk
about how to accomplish this, no? However, let us know if there's
something that's still unclear, as it could be an issue for others as
well. Bob]

Hi,

Thanks for the reminder about Keystone. Although I'm new to it, I feel
it's a great product, and one that can improve SR for many people. Most of
our families are on limited budgets. If they don't need the
word/phrase/sentence break point, and the in-window readback that Keyspell
offers, and if there's a way to incorporate their own stories using DNS
software, I'd like to be able to show them how to do this. Any info would
be appreciated.

Becky

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Becky Fleisch Cordeiro
Remote Solutions Coordinator
Children's Hospital Boston
Communication Enhancement Center
(617)355-3666

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From: owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org on behalf of spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
Sent: Wed 2/9/2005 4:29 AM
To: spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
Subject: RE: Data Bin Files

KeyStone SpeechMaster's Stories Organiser provides a foolproof method by
which you can turn any text file into DNS-compatible scripts which are
simple added to those normally available with the product. You can have
your
text automatically broken up into words, phrases or sentences and/or place
your own break point indicators in your text.

Details are available on our commercial web site www.keyspell.com.

Regards, Peter

Dr Peter S Kelway
Words Worldwide
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E-mail: newspeak@telco4u.net <mailto:newspeak@telco4u.net>
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From: owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org [mailto:owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org]
On Behalf Of spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
Sent: 07 February 2005 16:43
To: spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
Subject: Data Bin Files

[Moderator's note. Hi, Becky. Time was, back in the old days, that you
could
just go to Joel Gould's site--he was one of the original DD and DNS
engineers--for such tricks. I'm sure it's in our archives also. I will
forward you a copy of the old instructions from Joel's site. HOwever, the
training files were just text files with the '.bin' extension added in
naming. I assume that's still the case. Maybe others have a handier online
source for this info. Bob]

Hi,

I read the responses posted 2/3/05 from Bill Wade and Ed Rosenthal to the
question posed by Eileen C. Haddon regarding the data bin files (located
in
C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Application
Data\ScanSoft\NaturallySpeaking8\Data\Training\Enx)

Wow! I didn't even know these were here.

Eileen said she'd "also like the ability to put in my own text for
training.." So would I! I didn't know this was possible. How do you do
this?

1. What software do you use to create/save the file?
2. I assume it must be saved with a .bin extension?
3. What protocol does the base name of the file need to follow? I see data
bin files numbered data0.bin through data19.bin and then data 33.bin
through
data40.bin 4. Where does Dragon get the name that will appear in the list
of
training texts?

Thanks
Becky

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Becky Fleisch Cordeiro
Instructional Designer
Children's Hospital Boston
Communication Enhancement Center
617-355-3666
Hours: Mon-Thurs.
                 6:00 a.m.-3:45 p.m.

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