Thanks Stephanie,
I'll definitely look into the Peabody. As I said when answering another
entry, in my experience, Pediatricians do not diagnose dysgraphia and as a
teacher, I cannot refer a child to a neurologist. Maybe we should just
use
another term for it.
Yoletta
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From: <spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2000 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: Request for good resesources on Voice Recognition Research
>
> Subject: Re: Request for good resesources on Voice Recognition Research
> Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 11:29:57 -0800
>
>
> Yoletta, I have an eleven year old boy with dysgraphia. He also took the
> Woodcock Johnson, in which he scored in the high 90's in composition,
> punctuation, spelling and grammar, but very poorly in mechanics. This
fact
> pointed to the dysgraphia, but the higher scores averaged out so that he
> was
> not elibible for an IEP, only a 504 plan. I talked to my friend who is a
> special ed teacher in Portland, where the Peabody is the primary test
used
> of its type. The Peabody scores the mechanics of writing in a separate
> category than the rest of the cognitive writing skills, and so if the
child
> is unable or has difficulty writing, his/her score will show up as low in
> one single category rather than being averaged in with other areas. Kids
> get diagnosed properly easier with this test, and the scoring fits the
IEP
> criteria better. I went first to my physician for a referral for
> educational testing, and then I went to a private educational testing
> service. It was expensive, and we are of modest income. It was so worth
> it, because I had asked the school for three years to test, or consult or
> whatever. I felt intimidated asking for services, and so I chose to go
to
> a
> private source, where I could ask for any or all testing I wanted, and
not
> feel like I had to "make a case" first. Then I went back to the school,
> who
> then began to take me seriously with the results of the testing. It was
> then noted that my son probably had a tremor in his hand, as well as some
> cognitive processing difficulties. The tremor, unnoticeable to me or
> anyone
> else, was noticed by the school psychologist, who has one himself. It is
> something worth investigating. I then went to a pediatric neurologist
> (thank god covered by insurance except that we have to drive 145 miles to
> get to one) and he confirmed the tremor, and some other neurological
> difficulties, such as lack of sensory tone in fingertips, and toes. He
> recommended a workup by an occupational therapist. I thought this was
> going
> over the top but then I talked by chance to another mother whose child
has
> dysgraphia and she got a great deal of help with occupational therapy
> evaluation and treatment from a therapist that is certified in diagnosing
> sensory integration dysfunction. Whew. It turns out that this is a
> difficulty for Andrew. This was quite a journey for me, and as my husband
> is
> now out of a job, and no health insurance at this time, our challenges
are
> somewhat daunting. But my point is that a physician's help, probably a
> pediatric neurologist, could really help. So could a broad range of
> educational testing. All of these efforts brought me help from the
school
> because it suddenly seemed like a real, tangible problem. Also, these
> different steps helped my sense of my own reality and credibility. My
kid
> also does well with other aspects of writing, but getting him to do a
> paragraph could take half a day. It is perplexing, but real. Keep
> fighting
> for some recognition of dysgraphia. You are welcome to communicate with
me
> anytime. Good luck. Stephanie Clark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
> [mailto:owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org]On Behalf Of
> spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
> Sent: Tuesday, December 05, 2000 9:32 PM
> Subject: Re: Request for good resesources on Voice Recognition Research
>
>
>
> This is a little off the topic, but I'll go ahead anyway. I was told by
a
> compliance person in my district that we are not allowed to use the term
> dysgraphia. The school district has decided that this is a medical term
> and
> can only be diagnosed by a physician. How do you suggest I counter this?
> I've also been told that the IEP team can no longer suggest adaptive or
> assistive technology without a full consult from the district AT team
(and
> they don't make housecalls). I'm still looking for a good instrument
that
> will identify dysgraphia. A student can score in the average range on
the
> Woodcock Johnson written language subtests, but still be unable to write
a
> simple 3 or 4 sentence paragraph. That makes it even more difficult to
> sell
> the idea of dysgraphia and AT.
> Yoletta
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 1:17 PM
> Subject: Re: Request for good resesources on Voice Recognition Research
>
>
> > Dear Maddie:
> >
> > I have some case studies on my web site, if you would like to read them
> > (http://www.the-literacy-center.com/StudentsLDSpeechRec.htm ). I also
> have
> > a book with more case studies in it, along with implementation
> suggestions.
> > I also have a 7 minute video (MPEG) that I am working on uploading to
my
> > web
> > site. It shows a young lady using SR with a helpful companion program.
> > The
> > young lady is a sixth grade student. I also have anecdotal notes on
many
> > other cases.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Shelley
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > Shelley Lacey-Castelot
> > President
> > Innovative Solutions Group, LLC, home of:
> > The Literacy Center, LLC
> > SpeaktoWrite
> > netTranscribe
> > www.innosolu.com
> > slc@innosolu.com
> > PO Box 821, Huntington, CT 06484 USA
> > Tel: (01) 203.929.1199 Fax: (01) 203.925.8666
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
> > [mailto:owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org]On Behalf Of
> > spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
> > Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 12:41 PM
> > Subject: Request for good resesources on Voice Recogniton Research
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > I am currently working on a graduate paper in which I am using research
> to
> > support the use of voice recognition by an eleven year old with
learning
> > disabilities. Does anyone have any suggestions as to resources,
aritcles
> > and websites that contain research documentation supporting the use of
> > vooice recogniton with students with learning disabilities. I am not
> > looking for sites that advertise their products. I am looking for true
> > research and documentation that justifies my use of the software for
this
> > student. Thanks to everyone for your suggestions!
> >
> > Maddie Gold
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