Dysgraphia Diagnosis

From: spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
Date: Wed Dec 06 2000 - 18:33:27 EST

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    Dear Yoletta:
    Consider cutting your district some slack, their concern is legitimate. You
    do
    voice important concerns because assistive technology should be considered
    from the
    assessment/qualifying level and beyond into the IEP.
    I think we sometimes forget that schools are not responsible for addressing
    a
    medical diagnosis without completing the steps from IDEA used to qualify
    children
    as having a disability. The concern of your school district is that medical
    diagnoses alone, do not necessarily indicate disability under IDEA. And, a
    medical
    diagnosis alone does not determine that a student will have an
    "educational need"
    which ultimately requires FAPE . Without going through the guaranteed IDEA
    process,
    including procedural safeguards, a medical diagnosis alone does not stand
    in for
    appropriate assessment.
    Have you considered using some comparative data from a random sample of his
    peers
    writing levels for short and protracted periods of time as a way to get
    data? You
    would need to give randomly selected same grade peers and your target
    student the
    same writing task, and then analyze rate of speed, readability, length of
    sentences, paragraphs and quality of words (grade level, above, or below).
    This is
    not normed data, but it gives some real data related to the writing
    concerns you
    voice.
    An additional piece I am becoming more aware of is one of writing over
    extended
    periods of time. and determining whether the productivity of the student
    and the
    quality of sentences and words written alters over longer periods of time.
    On our
    standardized Texas assessment, kids need to be able to continue sustained
    writing,
    after they have read the prompt. In assessment we usually just get a few
    minutes of
    writing and call it done. We also need to be looking at the writing across
    the day
    as the student fatigues, and NO I don't know of a standardized test which
    will do
    this at an "eligibility" level. My 2 cents worth and 48 more will buy a
    canned
    soda! Take care and hang in there! Kids need you.

    spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org wrote:

    > This is a little off the topic, but I'll go ahead anyway. I was told by
    a
    > compliance person in my district that we are not allowed to use the term
    > dysgraphia. The school district has decided that this is a medical term
    > and
    > can only be diagnosed by a physician. How do you suggest I counter this?
    > I've also been told that the IEP team can no longer suggest adaptive or
    > assistive technology without a full consult from the district AT team
    (and
    > they don't make housecalls). I'm still looking for a good instrument
    that
    > will identify dysgraphia. A student can score in the average range on
    the
    > Woodcock Johnson written language subtests, but still be unable to write
    a
    > simple 3 or 4 sentence paragraph. That makes it even more difficult to
    > sell
    > the idea of dysgraphia and AT.
    > Yoletta
    > ----- Original Message -----
    > From: <spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org>
    > Sent: Monday, December 04, 2000 1:17 PM
    > Subject: Re: Request for good resesources on Voice Recognition Research
    >
    > > Dear Maddie:
    > >
    > > I have some case studies on my web site, if you would like to read them
    > > (http://www.the-literacy-center.com/StudentsLDSpeechRec.htm ). I also
    > have
    > > a book with more case studies in it, along with implementation
    > suggestions.
    > > I also have a 7 minute video (MPEG) that I am working on uploading to
    my
    > > web
    > > site. It shows a young lady using SR with a helpful companion program.
    > > The
    > > young lady is a sixth grade student. I also have anecdotal notes on
    many
    > > other cases.
    > >
    > > Best regards,
    > >
    > > Shelley
    > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    > > Shelley Lacey-Castelot
    > > President
    > > Innovative Solutions Group, LLC, home of:
    > > The Literacy Center, LLC
    > > SpeaktoWrite
    > > netTranscribe
    > > www.innosolu.com
    > > slc@innosolu.com
    > > PO Box 821, Huntington, CT 06484 USA
    > > Tel: (01) 203.929.1199 Fax: (01) 203.925.8666
    > >
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
    > > [mailto:owner-spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org]On Behalf Of
    > > spk2wrt@phoenix.edc.org
    > > Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 12:41 PM
    > > Subject: Request for good resesources on Voice Recogniton Research
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Hi!
    > >
    > > I am currently working on a graduate paper in which I am using research
    > to
    > > support the use of voice recognition by an eleven year old with
    learning
    > > disabilities. Does anyone have any suggestions as to resources,
    aritcles
    > > and websites that contain research documentation supporting the use of
    > > vooice recogniton with students with learning disabilities. I am not
    > > looking for sites that advertise their products. I am looking for true
    > > research and documentation that justifies my use of the software for
    this
    > > student. Thanks to everyone for your suggestions!
    > >
    > > Maddie Gold
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >

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